Alexander, all the arguments about the quality of Fujifilm or …

ЭТО – КОММЕНТАРИЙ К СТАТЬЕ: My friend used to shoot on the full-frame Nikon D800 and now he starts to use the Fujifilm X-T2. What is the result?, оставленный читателем (нажмите на ссылку, чтобы почитать саму статью) Alex.

Alexander, all the arguments about the quality of Fujifilm or Nikon, Canon are equally flawed. First, all Fuji cameras produce red (pink) tint. Plus, it is evident that many photos there are quite a lot of red lights or red colors on the walls, which are not removed by treatment with only redrawing layers. Where Fujifilm (as well as any other camera) or the photographer during photo processing attempted to pull highlight clippings or shadows on the skin, the skin itself has turned stable “dirty” tone. In this respect, even Nikon with its green tint is much closer “to the truth” (in the shadows, a little tanned skin and the truth has a greenish hue due to venous blood).

In general, optics, electronics, and printers so imperfect that photographed your hand, one can only marvel how inaccurate color transmitted (even with the most careful treatment) on the monitor as well as on a professional photo printer of 6 colors.

The Nikon D3100 with KIT lens allows to shoot approximately 40% of the images, but if you have a good “wide-angle lens” and you can add a portrait prime, it will be quite good. Regarding the same ease of operation, then, for example, because of the large palm, small mirrorless keep extremely inconvenient, quickly tired hand, in the buttons or the touch screen to be picked – so even torture, especially in the cold, or with one hand. It is much easier to keep the ax handle with a birch or the Nikon D7100, for example. Photographers with a small “female” palm, on the contrary, it is more convenient mirrorless like Fuji.

So, for each person it’s individually. Regarding safety – a matter of chance: in our winter trip through the mountains of Khamar-Daban, a friend broke his lens from Fujifilm for 100,000 rubles, and my cheap Tamron at the same fall (albeit with a plastic hood) does not hurt at all.

“Take Fuji. RAF has to be treated in Capture One »- if it’s comfortable and not expensive. There are no photos that can’t be shot with the set of Nikon D610 + some cheap primes and zooms of Samyang and Tamron (manual or with the “screwdriver”) + Chinese flashes and flashlights. But APS-C Fuji such restrictions are, for example, the starry sky, the landscape (it will be much narrower, the corners at wide angle degraded, etc., you will have to do a panorama). Again, Fuji for the money will be 2 times more expensive.

RAW treatment in Lightroom with Nik Collection goes much faster, especially for household photos, such as those presented in the article.

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My friend used to shoot on the full-frame Nikon D800 and now he starts to use the Fujifilm X-T2. What is the result?
Concerning the photos – if you did not do the processing, except for compressing to 500 KB, then, most likely, the photo in cool colors is made on the Nikon D800 with native sensor. In warm colors, based on the features of the sensors from Sony and Toshiba – on the Nikon D40.

Lenses without a 10-x zoom in Raw can not be distinguished. Based on the DOF, the photo with the largest blurring of the background could be made at 55 mm. But this is more a guessing game. APS-C zooms in closer and enlarges the background, but here you can’t guess, although photo 3 is very similar to what was shot by APS-C camera.


My friend used to shoot on the full-frame Nikon D800 and now he starts to use the Fujifilm X-T2. What is the result?
I agree with you, since you are engaged in these lenses, you watch, etc. I also watch, and I see that all the lenses for Fujifilm (and there are not many of them) are sold in Moscow and St. Petersburg, some in Chelyabinsk. I see on page 1 the price of 10’000 rubles: “Fujinon 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 new.” All the rest – far more than for 20’000 rubles. Why do I need such a focal lenght with such a dark hole?

Or the used Fujifilm XF 10-24 mm F4 R OIS X Mount for 49’000 rubles. My Tamron 10-24mm in Khabarovsk bought for 8’000 rubles (about 6 times cheaper). Transfer from Moscow, I understand, when for 7-10 thousand I order the old iron Tamron from Komsomolsk-on-Amur, remembering about the adjustment of the front and back focus in my body. But paying for a cat in a bag with a transfer from Moscow, even for 25’000 rubles, is scary. My prime lens Nikon 35mm f1.8 I bought for 5’000 rubles. Buying fix Nikon 50mm 1.4 can be somewhere for 12’000 rubles, and Nikon 85 mm 1.8 – for 15000 rubles.

The Nikon 35mm f/1.8 I do not use practically: I shoot the shoulder portrait from f/1.8 – the risk that my clothes will not be sharp anymore. If I really want, I take 90 mm or 75 mm for 2.8, because the laws of optics allow blurring several times stronger than 35 with f1,2, since DOF is extremely small.

An external flash YongNuo Speedlite YN565EX will save a flat picture (for 4’000 rubles only), installed on a tripod and ignited with a camera flash. And indeed, all my 5 lenses together cost 27’000 rubles for 2 years. So, stories about 70’000 rubles shock me and awe: for this money, I better fully equip the car with a power kit, winches, Hi-Jacks, mud tyres, etc. Or I’ll buy a lot.
I have a fleet of optics covering the focal length from 10 to 300 mm + a standard fast prime lens 35 mm and a portrait-macro Tamron 90 mm. Yes, there is no stabilizer, but there are 2 tripods and 2 flashes, a lot of cheap Soviet equipment – lamps, tripods for shooting panoramas and video, video light, a cell phone save sign perfectly. Years on 5 will suffice.

The fact that you are fond of new photographic equipment, choose it, you have enough money to buy – just wonderful. God grant, each person would have such a hobby or work so as not to spend money on booze and grass. I just feel sorry for that kind of money, especially since the “masterpiece” button does not appear.

I’m going to put a better 100 rubles on Webmoney and download a new course Zamorin on a folder. His colleague, Sofia, perfectly conducts lessons on photo processing in Photoshop and Lightroom, proving that the technical parameters of the camera are not too important.

Peace to you, I apologize if you are offended or offended somewhere!


My friend used to shoot on the full-frame Nikon D800 and now he starts to use the Fujifilm X-T2. What is the result?
Paul, it’s pointless to compare: Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM (weight: 105 g.), Fuji has no analogues. Neither aperture, nor weight. The lenses from Canon are large and heavy (2.5-3 times), at a price cheaper than 2 times than the Fujifilm XF 27mm f/2.8. Well, optically, of course, better.

Fujifilm XF 10-24mm f/4 R OIS (66’000) and Nikon 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5G ED AF-S DX Nikkor (70’000) or Tamron (here 4 times cheaper). Stars, according to the “rule 600”, on Tamron and Nikon will be better, because on 10 mm we have f3.5, not f/4. And ISO does not need to increase.

All lenses have to be ordered from Moscow. The army generally prefers to put on Olympus drones… This was all for the sake of the joke.

But seriously, when I want to buy a Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR, I’m not going to «Cvyaznoy» store, but to Avito (second hand market), and I’m buying for 25-30 thousand. The prices that you give are normal for Moscow and Petersburg, and me, the provincial photographer, for such money, you can buy a second-hand Japanese small car in Vladivostok or in Thailand with the whole family to fly.

Optically new lenses, of course, are good, for a short rear, part with VR. But, if there were money, like my comrades who are engaged in photography, I would buy a full-frame mirrorless Sony on second hand market. Plus, put on it a used lens with a stabilizer from Nikon or Canon via the adapter, and shoot the video. Here price is a decisive factor. Especially since 90% of the shots, judging from Fuji’s own shots, can’t be distinguished from APS-C equipped with a Toshiba or Sony sensor, and even more after processing.


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  1. Dmitry says:

    Sergey, thanks for the review. It was very interesting. My opinion is this: professional photgraphers will not buy it because of autofocus perfomance, and amateurs too, but because of the price.

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    • Paul Chertalev says:

      Dmitry, these cameras are bought up like hot cakes. I know 3 people who switched to the X-T2 from a full frame: one with Canon 6D, the other with Nikon D800, well, add me. And I will say for myself: one of the reasons for the transition is autofocus perfomance. One is better and more accurate than on my Nikon D800. It’s great.

      I waited a long time for an APS-C mirrorless camera with such characteristics. Why cropped? Because the lens for DX-cameras is much lighter and more compact. And the problem of Nikon and Canon is that they do not bother to release high-quality compact DX-lenses, and photographers are forced to carry tons of glass on themselves.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Dmitry, thank you for the response and for having expressed your opinion. I agree with you, if the phrase “do not buy” we replace “will not be so much common as APS-C DSLRs from Canon and Nikon.”

      Regarding the fact that professionals will not buy the Fujifilm X-T2, I will give here a story that I placed to a comparative review of full-frame mirrorless Sony. Last fall in Yekaterinburg came the head of the Moscow representation of the publishing house from the United States. With him, he had a full-frame Sony Alpha ILCE-7RM2 with a zoom Sony FE 24-240mm f / 3.5-6.3 OSS Lens and a prime Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T * 85mm f / 1.4 ZA. On it, he literally passed a couple of months before the meeting, and before shooting on Fujifilm X-T1. On my request to give feedback on Sony A7, he said that the camera has an amazingly wide DD and high ISO, but the focus is not so fast. At the same time his words were: “You know, Sergey, the mirrorless literally saves my life. I had to shoot reports in Chechnya, Afghanistan and Africa. I come to the country, I put on the clothes of the local people and go out into the street, lost in the crowd (he has an Arab appearance). A US citizen, and especially a journalist – a bag of money for terrorists, we are the first candidates to be kidnapped for ransom. Fuji is not so much attracting the attention of both bad guys and those I photograph, since it does not look like a professional camera “… What is the more professional application, Dmitri?

      It is clear that those professionals who shoot football for the “Soviet Sport”, will not buy the X-T2. Focusing on the response of Paul, I will assume that it is not because of slow autofocus, but because of the lack of 800 mm telephoto lens … For street-photo reporting, I’m sure the speed and accuracy of Fujifilm X-T2 auto focus will be more than enough – look at the second part of the test the Fujifilm X30 advanced compact camera (link at the end of this review). I there filmed a report from the “Race of Heroes” and noted that AF censures I have not caused.

      As for the cost, we are judging you from your bell tower. I will give an example. I save a year to go on vacation once. Less than a month ago, I returned from an independent tour of India, where I selipped in hotels for 10-15 dollars a day, and was very sad if I had to pay 20 USD. When we arrived at midnight by train to Jaipur, we agreed with a moto rickshaw that for 1 dollar he would take us to the hotel, he drove off 2 km from the railway station and stated that he was mistaken that he thought he was going to get closer. Therefore, he says, travel costs $3. We quarreled and he dropped me and my wife and suitcases off somewhere under the overpass, in the slums, among the homeless people sleeping right on the ground … At the same time, I personally know the man who flew to Cuba and at the beach resort of Varadero lived in a hotel, where he paid $250 per room per day…

      I look out the window and see on the streets a fairly noticeable number of cars worth 70-150 thousand dollars. And the neighborhoods of Yekaterinburg are built up by cottage villages, where the houses cost 300’000 – 2’000’000 dollars. For their owners, the price difference between the Nikon D7100 and the Fujifilm X-T2 is the amount they spend to sit in a restaurant with girls of easy virtue for one night. And among them, too, there are amateur photographers, and not everyone wants to carry large photo frames with full-frame DSLRs and optics.

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  2. Alex says:

    Thanks for the review! For such a mirrorless price, you can buy a second-hand UAZ (or Niva, or foreign car) + APS-C by Canon or Nikon. Or you can go for travel with your family to Thailand (or Vietnam) and buy a new APS-C there. You can even buy a FX mirrorless camera from Sony, which easily surpasses any Fujifilm (and at the price about 2-1. 5 times cheaper), and to take the adapter and lens by Canon with stabilization, you can perfectly shoot the video.

    Still there is a question, how to photograph at low temperatures (-25, and below) when it is impossible to put the camera in heat. At the DSLR camera, even a good screen freezes and transmits colors incorrectly, plus it slows down considerably, because using Live-view mode increases the shutter lag, which is not so easy in the cold.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Alexey, I read the blog of Elena Liseikina (Fujifilm’s ambassador in Russia) for a long time. She has a lot of photo-reports, shot on the Fujifilm X-T2 in snowy Finland. Perhaps the problem of the strong frosts that you are talking about is taking place, but nevertheless, before making a choice in favor of a particular camera, it will be more correct to answer the questions of the questionnaire, the reference to which I gave in the review. Then it becomes clear who takes into account Niva’s price when choosing a camera, and who does not pay attention to it; who lives in Sochi, and who lives in Yakutia …

      You yourself said that due to frosts, a shutter lag might happen (I have never had such a thing, although I live in the Urals and shot in the frost to -25 Celsius degrees, usually the lens begins to rotate with difficulty when focusing), then it will happen and with a mirrorless camera, and with a DSLR. The owner of the mirrorless has the option: switch to the electronic shutter mode.

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      • Alex says:

        Thanks for the answers and for the tip-off! I’ll definitely check out her blog. I myself go to “Patriot” SUV; therefore, based on the price, I prefer used the Nikon D7100. What difference does it weigh how many kilograms the camera weighs and how much space does it take? It is important that the bear does not eat, and the basket with berry weighs immeasurably more.

        In Finland, the climate is warmer than in Siberia, but I am asking because the problem has not been resolved. I shot a story with video in the factory; superzoom camera did not normally show the picture in 15 minutes. It is not clear where and how he focused, DSLR kept working for half an hour (with the screen warmed by hand), then it became unclear what he was doing at all.

        Beautiful subjects are just in the cold, when a fog or haze is formed. Near the Lake Baikal and large ice-free rivers, and if you carry the camera on yourself in a backpack or in your bosom, then it gets foggy in the frost (from the vapor of the body you see), you need a car or a package, but in the cold to wear it. With photography, just the optical viewfinder saves. At -20 of Celsius, by the way, the camera can be carried as long as necessary in the cold, the screen works without remarks, if it is not touch (hands quickly freeze and the sensor does not respond, this is the same for the phone).

        The mirrorless cameras are the future, it is understandable (I would have bought it myself), but the price for the cameras themselves and for optics, a small range of the optics park, the lack of used optics is still slowing down the process.

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          Alexey, I just stood up for the Fujifilm X-T2, but that does not mean that I encourage everyone to flee and buy this camera instead of his or her one. I suggest only to pay attention that any device has pros and cons, and their importance is determined by the owner, focusing on their personal values and terms of use.

          Yesterday Paul Chertalev asked me if I wanted to buy the X-T2 myself after such a detailed review. I honestly said that the disadvantages are that I had no desire to sell my Nikon D610 kit and optics park, but … “my heart trembled.”

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          • Alex says:

            At you all on the topic. Simply put my thoughts: the Nikon D7100 is already clearly, for the most part characteristics is inferior to the Fuji X-T2. Here it depends on the conditions. The Geländewagen is better than Russian “UAZ Patriot” rides through the mud, but for most owners to drag it into the mud is unacceptable. I just have returned from Thailand, took with me the camera and 2 lenses, full-time zoom and wide-angle lens. Since all this is not included in hand luggage, I did not strain much – a Thai backpack for $5 for back and forth, wet towels have more weight.

            In the 90’s, I had the Soviet DSLR camera Zenit, bought for a penny, and as the kid developed a film, loaded it into the camera, later put it in the Kodak studio, because they had better quality and price, the repair was also a penny, a working aperture f/5.6 for all occasions, the choice of shutter speed is, frankly speaking, small. After that, such small things as weight, size and convenience of shooting, will not make me spend extra money on the camera, when it is easier to find a new photo courses for a few pennies or simply put a camera on the step at night, putting it under a lens cap to get the right angle.

            But there would be money, would buy the Fuji X-T2 or something from Sony, even with adapters they are better, where I with my slow zoom do from a tripod 9 out of 10 unsuccessful shots on hockey, the owners of these devices with high ISO, tenacious focus and VR would be enough and 2 shots. Nikon and Canon have to something drastically change in the next 2 years: adapters to do with old lenses, more mirrorless cameras, better sensor to invent.

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  3. Alex says:

    Sergey, tell me, please, where do you have a questionnaire for choosing a camera? Searching and viewing the table of contents did not yield any results.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Alexey, I hid it very much! 🙂 Link to the questionnaire is immediately after the beginning of the 4th chapter (after photo #32). I compiled it, so that the questions of newcomers about which camera is better to buy, it was easier to give a valid recommendation.

      You are an experienced photographer; you do not need to ask such questions. It is better to suggest what other questions you can add to this questionnaire …

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  4. Sergey PAT says:

    By the way, I repeatedly hear comments: you can put an adapter on the mirrorless Sony and shoot with third-party lenses. Here is the video with the test of different adapters on the “Sony” mirrorless – even with native adapters, not all native lenses work correctly… What can we say about third-party manufacturers.

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  5. Paul Chertalev says:

    Sergey, where did you see the price of the camera 145’000 rubles? I bought it as a new one at a decent store of 109’000 rubles, and there are also stocks that allow buying the Fujifilm X-T2 cheaper.

    – Canon EOS 7D M2 – 1’499 $ or 94’990 rubles;
    – Fujifilm X-T2 – 1’669 $ or 109’990 rubles. (where did you find 145,000?);
    – Fujifilm X-T20 – $ 899 or 57’990 rubles.
    – Nikon D7200 – $ 997 or 69’990 rubles.
    – Nikon D500 – 1’996 $ or 149’990 rubles.

    The difference in price between the Fuji X-T20 and the X-T2 is about 50 thousands rubles, this is the payment for the following features:
    – 1/8000 shutter speed, when shooting portraits on f1.4 in the afternoon it is very useful;
    – weather protection – for me, living in St. Petersburg and constantly taking pictures in the conditions of rain, it is very important;
    – Ergonomics: in the X-T2 controls are much more convenient (for example, the ISO disk, the presence of a focusing joystick – very convenient… etc.);
    – 2 card slots – saved me recently when shooting a video; one of the slots X-T2 supports UHS-II – for fast cards, which is good for serial shooting (although I do not really need it);
    – the flip-up screen in the vertical position of the camera is a convenient thing when shooting portraits from the bottom position;
    – a larger viewfinder magnification of 0.77x versus 0.62x; and still the viewfinder X-T2 operates at 100 fps versus 60 fps on the X-T20 – this really makes it very smooth, close to the optical one;

    – presence of flexible adjustment of the tracking system of objects with continuous focusing, on the X-T20 is absent, and is satisfied only with the available ones;
    – The best quality 4k video and the ability to record F-log – I think, will appreciate the pro videographers, I did not appreciate;

    – The presence of a battery grip with a burst mode – I think for a professional shooting of weddings the thing is indispensable, at least one battery lasts for 3 continuous shooting hours and I would not refuse it; say the truth the price of the booster is too high.

    I calculated that all these pieces cost 50 thousand. Mainly, for me, weather protection, shorter shutter speed, viewfinder and 2 card slots are important, and in the future – the possibility to buy a battery grip. Whether it is worth to pay so much money or not – everyone decides for himself. I believe that the Fuji X-T2 is worth its money and works it off with a vengeance.

    The camera is great: during the test drive I compared the paired pictures of the Fujifilm X-T2 + the Fujinon 35mm 1.4 and the Nikon D800 + the Nikkor 35mm 1.4 and I did not see much difference in the photos. Unless, in the color rendering: I liked Fujifilm X’s one more. Well, the weight of the Fuji X set is 2 times smaller. Also, I noticed the smart work of Fujifilm X-T2 autofocus, especially the cool thing “exact focus on the eyes.”

    Nikon here is behind – honestly speaking, I’m tired of his constant misses, especially when shooting portraits on f/1.4… It tired me out: you make a picture of a person not moving, aiming precisely at the eye – and beside the mark… Another frame – beside the mark… Another – beside the mark… One time from the 5th – hurray, hit! I do not know what it depends on, perhaps on the quality of lighting. In short, with the Fujifilm X-T2, I forgot about it.

    Question to readers: do not you think that my photos made with the X-T2 lack the magic of a full frame?

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Paul, the cost for the Fujifilm X-T2 at 145 thousand rubles – probably a misprint. I has corrected now the data on the price in the table.

      I want to draw the attention of not only those photographers who are going to take a mirrorless camera, but in general anyone who lives near the Russian border. When preparing the information for review, I found a blog of the photographer who bought the Fujifilm X-T10. He lives in Kaliningrad, he went to Poland to the city of Olsztyn (he wrote that he should call the store and order in advance). The cost there is little different from those that are exhibited in our stores, but at the exit it is possible to issue “Tax free”.

      This amateur photographer took a camera in the “X-KOM” store and wrote that he hoped to return 23%. I think he’s wrong, you can return somewhere around 9% of the cost. I looked now on the site – the price of the Fujifilm X-T2 body is 7400 zł, the zoom is Fujinon XF 16-55mm f/2.8R – 4110 zł, Fujinon XF 50-140mm f/2.8 – 5700 zł. At the rate of 14.39 rubles per 1 zloty, we get the total cost of the kit: 17’210 zł or 247’651 rubles.

      If it is possible to return 9% of “Tax Free”, the savings will be 22.3 thousand rubles. I think that amateur photographers who often travel to Poland (and, probably, to Finland) might think about such a way of buying photographic equipment.

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      • Igor says:

        In China in Fujifilm brand photo store the following prices: the Fuji X-T20 kit XF 18-55mm f/2.8-4 R costs 9400-9500 yuan. There are black and silver versions of the case.

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        • Sergey says:

          That’s mighty good, Igor! The last time I compared prices for cameras and lenses in Russia and in China when the RMB exchange rate was 4.9 rubles. And then the photographic technique there was slightly more expensive than ours.

          Now I check prices on Taobao and even on AliExpress – really, it’s cheaper: the Fujifilm X-T2 body in China costs 89’100 rubles! The body of Nikon D610 – 68’200 rubles!

          I cannot find how much in Russia there is a L-plate for shooting from a tripod in a vertical position, but in the USA for the Really Right Stuff the BXT2-L Set L-Plate are asked for 180 US dollars. Additional Fujifilm MHG-XT2 Metal Hand Grip, with which it is more convenient to hold the camera are sold for 7,000 rubles.

          Paul and other owners of the Fujifilm X-T2 for a note. On AliExpress there is:

          1) Additional grip with a L-plate for vertical shooting (Quick Release L Plate) – 1735 rubles. A simple L-plate without a grip (LB-XT2 Quick Release L Plate) – 1475 rubles.

          For those who decide to take the Fuji X-T20:
          1) Additional grip with L-plate for the tripod (XT20 Vertical Quick Release L Plate) in China is 1475 rubles. In Russia, the FUJIFILM HAND GRIP MHG-XT10/XT20 is sold for 5,000 rubles.

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  6. Sergey says:

    All the same, I’m shocked by the foreign prices for photographic equipment. I read the story of Oleg Lazhechnikov about how he bought a new mirrorless camera Sony A6500 in Bangkok in the Sony Store in the Siam Paragon shopping center and saved 45,000 rubles.

    Now it is useful to check the Internet price for Sony A6500 in Thailand: 51’990 baht, which at today’s rate is 86’551.14 rubles against 109’989 in Yekaterinburg in the cheapest photo shop. In addition, the Thai government allows you to return part of the VAT paid. So, Oleg returned 5.2% of the cost, which is 2’710 baht (4’510 rubles). Total camera Sony A6500 body will cost 82’041 rubles. Among other things, he won on the fall of the exchange rate on the day of purchase and on points from the bank card Tinkoff.

    Oh-ho-ho! It’s never too late to learn, is it. Checked now how much it costs in Bangkok the Fujifilm X-T2 Body – 59’990 baht or 99’850 rubles. If we return the VAT at a rate of 5,2%, it will make 5192 rubles. The final cost of purchasing the Fujifilm X-T2 will be 94’658 rubles against 109’990 in Yekaterinburg.

    I won’t consider how much you can save, if together with body also lenses in Thailand to buy…

    P.S. As far as I understand from the response of Oleg Lazhechnikov, his Sony A6500 body comes with an English menu, if it is someone inconvenience.

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    • Igor says:

      Sergey, I have a purely Japanese model Canon EOS 700D, which is called Canon Kiss X7i, and which has an English-language menu. This absolutely does not cause any inconvenience. Even without knowing English (although at the level of the basic definitions it is known, I think everything), everything is clear in the menu. I set up and do not open it permanently, and the main screen, which displays the indicators, it is the same as with the Russian menu.

      Now about the purchase. My friend took the Nikon D610 in China, which indicated “Made in Thailand”. Another friend the other day took in China the Nikon D750. The lenses of both Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm 1: 4G ED VR. Both saved about 45 thousand rubles each. Plus 2 years warranty.

      The pitfalls here is warranty service. It’s easier for us: China is near. We send cameras back to China for the warranty service, but this rarely happens. But how to be you, who bought a body in Thailand?

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      • Sergey PAT says:

        Igor, about the warranty service, in each case, its story. I am sure that a lot of camera owners will live in such towns, which is very far from the centers of warranty service, and do not really hope for it.

        If I had the opportunity to take the new Nikon D610 KIT 24-120mm f/4.0 with a discount of 45’000 rubles, I would not hesitate to buy it. What is there to break? Even if the shutter is out of order, then without a warranty, replacement costs 15-20 thousand rubles, I guess. But the probability of such a breakdown in the average amateur photographer is minimal, and he can do without a warranty.

        It’s clear, if you are a professional reporter who shoots 1000 frames a day, you will worry about the warranty. And still, with such a difference in price, I would take a non-warranty camera from China or Thailand. 🙂

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        • Igor says:

          Sergey, completely agree with your conclusions. And the Chinese have versions from Hong Kong: they are even cheaper, on average, for a couple of thousand rubles. If the Chinese branded warranty cameras go in closed boxes with a holographic seal, then Hong Kong boxes are opened, seals are broken.

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        • Igor says:

          Sergey, I had a thought through: did you decide to switch to Fujifilm X-T2 Body? 😉

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          • Sergey says:

            Sergey, I had a thought through: did you decide to switch to Fujifilm X-T2 Body?

            Sergey
            Igor, because I’m fond of photography, then I have an interest in the Fuji X-T2. And I’m watching Paul’s works, as well as watching the blogs of other owners of the Fujifilm X-T1 and the Fujifilm X-T20. I like the manufacturability of these cameras. Probably, I would not be against having such a camera as a spare … but it’s too costly to have two systems.

            But there are three things that distinguish my perception from Pavel Chertalev, who decided to sell his Nikon D800. Firstly, I am not so heavily strained by the size and weight of my kit. Secondly, I see the “magic picture of the full frame” – when I take pictures with Nikon D610, I sing with pleasure, and when I look at the pictures from APS-C , I see “to small image details” … Maybe it’s a placebo … but for me this factor is decisive. Third, as I wrote to Paul below, I do not like Fuji’s special color, it’s some sort of synthetic. In other discussions I already wrote that I really like the colors from Canon.

            Given the financial losses when changing the system and the three factors listed above, I do not think that in the near future I will change the Nikon D610 to the Fuji X-T2, and whether I will change at all because of the APS-C factor. Perhaps in three or four years I will be seriously interested in full-frame mirrorless Sony. At the moment I think that a more competent investment in improving the images will be Photoshop courses, visits to master classes and so on.

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  7. Eugene says:

    Paul, does the Fuji X-T2 supports both slots of UHS-II format cards?

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  8. Michael says:

    Sergey, hello! And did you use this camera yourself?

    Paul, once again – great pictures!

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Michael, good afternoon. No, I have not used the camera Fujifilm X-T2. I photographed with the high-level point-and-shot camera Fujifilm X30, which I reviewed, and took one day of Fujifilm X-T10 with Fujifilm XF 16-55mm f / 2.8 R LM WR lens and telephoto Fujifilm XF 55-200mm f / 3.5-4.8 R LM OIS.

      Comparing Fujifilm X-T2 and Fujifilm X-T10 is difficult because of the speed of autofocus, and the X-T2, as I said, did not hold. But the opinion on the X-T10 is the following: if you are not afraid of the cons of mirrorless cameras, related to a small choice of optics and accessories, and a high price, the Fujifilm X-T10 is an ideal option. The speed and accuracy of focus mode for any of the stories provided in my blog is more than enough. When I bought last December the telephoto zoom Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8, I talked to the seller: he also had the Nikon D800, and he sold everything, since he switched to the X-T2. He also, similar as Paul, claims that Fuji focus is excellent.

      I think that all the advantages of the X-T2 in front of the X-T20, which Paul listed in the comments above, will be useful to him only in 5% of cases. With the subjects that he showed in this review, the X-T20 would have coped just as well. At the end of the article – a reference to the review of the X30, there are the same stories of jumping people removed. The situation with Paul – as I have with the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 is expensive, heavy, and in 95% of cases it is not needed, and in 4% of its function, the Nikon 70-200mm f/4.0, which is cheaper and easier. But because of the remaining 1% of the situations I took it. 🙂

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      • Paul Chertalev says:

        Sergey, I shot a lot of my reports and will shoot in conditions of poor light conditions, and I need high accuracy and speed of focusing, and good ergonomics, a second card slot, just in case, and the ability to shoot with a flash at 1/250 seconds.

        All this I could only get from the Fujifilm X-T2. If you think that for professional photography I could do with the Fujifilm X-T20, then it seems to me that you are mistaken. The ability to quickly change shooting parameters is priceless, it helps to not miss the moment.

        But I agree that for most of the philistines the Fujifilm X-T10 will be enough. And maybe there will be quite an even cheaper option such as the Nikon D40 KIT 18-55mm for 2.5 thousand rubles. 🙂

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          Paul, after the Photo 32, is a link to the questionnaire on the choice of camera and lenses to him. You honestly answered it, and bought something that suits your needs for the money that you agree to spend. Each photographer will have his own answers to the questions, and his decision to buy a camera or body.

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  9. Oleg says:

    Great article and great pictures! Thank you, Sergey and Paul, for this unique review. I think that for beginners and advanced amateur photographers it will serve as a good milestone in the way of choosing that favorite camera, which will be removed new photo masterpieces.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Thank you, Oleg! It’s amazing that from the apologist of mirrorless Sony Alpha there were no criticisms of comments… My opinion: over the past 5 years, not a single model has been released to the market, which would have been ahead of other cameras (at least DSLR ones, at least mirrorless) and could remove what there can’t be a competitor, if we talk about “common citizenship use”. Yes, some models in some specific cases can be more convenient, cost less or focus a little better. But, in general, all are approximately equal.

      I note that I really like the work of Paul, and not because of the color (he just starts to bore, I want to work without presets), but because of the selected compositions, shooting moments. I am amazed how quickly Paul grows as a photographer. For review he sent me 250 photos and it was extremely difficult to choose from them 40 images for the review… each one I wanted to leave.

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    • Paul Chertalev says:

      Oleg, if interested, the full set of photos from the Fujifilm X-T2, from which Sergey selected examples for this review, is here.

      goo.gl/photos/rgacnRZ4CZGBJJAk8

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      • Oleg says:

        Paul, I have looked – I liked the pictures very much. I would like to get a couple of RAF. Well, just to see how the Macintosh editor opens them. In the version for the site, with the lowering of the resolution, the overhaul became clearly visible, but this is on my monitor – there is an option that it will not be very visible on other devices (tablets, smartphones).

        As it is, I repeat once again: you clearly illustrated your choice with the final result – pictures that personally like me very much. If for someone they are not an argument, then, in fact, this means not your photo audience! 🙂

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  10. Oleg says:

    Sergey, I really liked the review of its volumetry, fundamental, so to speak. 🙂 But, first of all, it liked what is illustrated by the magnificent, as for me, terry lovers™ , photos of Paul.

    The taste and color of all the markers are different, but exactly how Paul used optics on long focal lengths I really liked. An unusual picture is obtained. I can, without looking into the narrative part of the frame, say that, for example, photos No. 29-30 and No. 34-36 are made on focal lengths from 100 mm and longer. Well, I love this geometry of the frame. And someone will not care … 🙂

    Moreover, here is the following nuance: Paul was shooting a very, very, very complex story – a children’s performance. And those photos that I see, elegantly convey the emotions of children and the very action of the holiday, look very positive.

    So, when you “fight” with technology, you cannot shoot such footage. Therefore, I draw a conclusion precisely from the result, from the pictures, that Pavel really found an excellent technical solution for himself, which allows not to be distracted by technical nuances, but to make excellent photographs!

    You saw on my Facebook page how I shot a children’s performance on the book of Narine Abgaryan “Manyunya” – it’s very difficult to catch such shots to convey the spirit of the performance through emotions in the frame and do it as technically as possible. Paul’s photoshoot and comparison with my similar images personally convinced me of the advisability of such a technical solution.

    As for the price bracket and the opportunity to find a cheaper option among the mirrorless Sony, I would argue, but it was the result that convinced me that Paul was on the right track in his search (by the way, someone before this very strongly urged to consider Olympus as a candidate for the transition to the camp of the mirrorless, I remember our discussion under Sergey’s article). 🙂

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    • Oleg says:

      Sergey, I meant our discussion with Paul in the comments to the comparative review of the Sony A6000 and the Fujifilm X-E2.

      In general, I read the comments and was horrified: I flooded in your comments, where only he reached. 🙂 I promise to be more modest. 🙂

      Warm company has gathered in the comments here in the blog. I have not heard Misha Shmakov for a long time, I would like to hear his opinion.

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      • Sergey PAT says:

        Oleg, four days later, on April 3, 2017, turns 4 years old blog. Apis Krasnoyarsky, you, Paul and Misha Shmakov have been communicating with me almost from the very beginning. Therefore, the company is so sincere. 🙂

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      • Paul Chertalev says:

        Oleg, I also seriously thought about Olympus. But the Fuji X-T2 is cheaper by 40 thousand than the Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II, and the prices for the top-end optics of Olympus are the same as those of Fuji. Autofocus of the Fuji X-T2 is better and the sensor is larger, which makes it possible to blur the background better. And, as a consequence, Fuji’s digital noise is better.

        And having tried Fujifilm compact optics, I realized that my needs are satisfying. And, importantly, there was an opportunity to try the Fujifilm X-T2 in real shooting. And Olympus does not give a free camera for a test drive. That’s all.

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        • Oleg says:

          As far as I remember, Fujifilm does for itself some cunning sensor on technology, different from the one that Sony does (I do not remember already what the nuances are). Going to the site DPReview, where in the typing field you can see on multiple magnification of the photo of four cameras by choice, I was amazed how much the Fuji picture is less noisy at high ISO.

          So, for those who need compactness and normal working off of high ISO – one way: Fuji, without looking back at the high cost. The other pros in this camera are also very tasty, but I’m even afraid to talk about their priority, because in the neighboring comments I quietly escaped from the discussion when the person in his argument put the electronic stabilizer in priority rather than the full frame with less noisy picture in the cameras, which cost equally.

          In turn, he was not very clear about my requirements for EVF and the hot shoe on the mirrorless. Therefore, in this publication of Sergei I saw a posh picture. Very lively and “breathable” photos. And already what arguments were relative to other selection criteria, it does not matter. For other photographers, they will be different.

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  11. Paul Chertalev says:

    Sergey, about: “the Fuji X-T2 with the professional Nikon D500 does not make sense,” – I recommend to watch this excellent video from Michael Andrew, who, in my opinion, makes the best comparison of the cameras “Epic Shootout”.

    In the end, he suggests choosing in the blind, the photo from which camera they like to choose. And he thinks that the Fuji X-T2 is better.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Paul, with my phrase “I do not see the point of comparing the Fujifilm X-T2 with the Nikon D500” I meant that I do not know who could be the buyer of the D500… There is also a reference to a detailed explanation.

      Concerning the fact that in this video the author thinks that the X-T2 is better – I return to the first comments: it’s not for nothing that I always poke on the questionnaire… Such statements are untenable… Better or worse this or that model depends on many factors having value for a particular photographer. In the article about which camera to choose in the first paragraphs, I gave an example of a situation with a shoemaker, when a top-end full frame Nikon D5 costed 4.4 times more, is worse than my amateur full frame Nikon D610. But in fact, if you delve deeper, then the Nikon D5 in this example is worse than the most unpretentious amateur compact Fujifilm X30 or Nikon D3100 …

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      • Andrey says:

        Sergey, I know who is the buyer of the Nikon D500! 🙂 Wonderful Petersburg photographer Viktor Pletenskoy, for example. He changed his old Nikon D300 to the APS-C D500, not to the full frame, and for this reason he believes that there is no need to change the optics park.

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          Andrey, of course, I judge the advantages and disadvantages of this or that camera from the standpoint of my experience of purely “civil” use of the camera. I photographed more than two years on the Nikon D5100, and I was happy with everything. Because I did not shoot any special stories.

          For example, for 4 years of blogging I photographed with panning just 1 time. Therefore, I do not really need a continuous shooting and buffer capacity. And if the photographer is blogging about motocross and rally racing, he will need many of the same frames with panning, and then the Nikon D500 will enjoy because of the excellent focus system and large amount of built-in memory.

          And, besides, if a person has money and he can afford to take a top camera, then why not. I will rejoice with all my heart for him.

          P.S. I looked at Viktor Pletensky’s portfolio. Of course, he does not discuss on forums what camera is better. He will shoot the perfect images on the Nikon D3200 or Fujifilm X-A3 too. 🙂

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          • Andrey says:

            So, I did not say that it is necessary everywhere and to all to prove that such a camera or such and such a brand is better. What for? It is necessary to photograph, and everything else is nonsense. I used the Nikon D200 for 2 years, and everything suited me, except for a noisy ISO.

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Andrew, since our last meeting, when you gave me the opportunity to shoot on the Nikon D200, I understand that you have bought the ultra wide angle lens Samyang 14mm f/2.8, and from this your comment, I am assuming that the body has also been changed. I wonder with what camera are you photographing now? What is a short review?

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          • Andrey says:

            Yes, Sergey, I bought both the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 (Rokinon 14mm f/2.8) and the full frame Nikon D700 took with a small overhaul mileage. Short review: I like the control is very convenient, similar to the Nikon D200, everything is on the body, and ISO high keeps quiet.

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  12. Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

    I have a question for Paul. Whether has been the Sony A6500 considered? They have achieved outstanding success with autofocus in this camera, and for the quality of the picture, it is a little bit, but it surpasses the Fuji X-T2. Or don’t they give a test drive too?

    For Pavel and Sergey, the question is: in your set of photos there are not “normal”, that is, a regime light on the street? And then too contrasting in the room and the “misty” in the street somehow not impressive, we forget that “light is our everything”, not cameras and not even lenses. And so-called portraits have well, too extreme lighting …

    And so, the drawing of the lenses is like, the sensor on high ISO gives a normal picture, I agree with Paul on ergonomics too: saving on the Fuji T20 was meaningless.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Apis, at the end of this article, there is a link to the comparative review of the Sony A6000 and the Fujifilm X-E2, in which each system analyzes the lenses available for both models. It shows that Sony does not have a fast standard lens as well as a telephoto lens for APS-C. And in general, the choice of APS-C optics, first, is poorer: 14 positions to date for Sony APS-C cameras against Fuji’s 25 models; secondly, if you read reviews and see examples of pictures, the quality of Sony lenses is more likely to cause criticism than the competitor.

      And if you buy APS-C mirrorless and put lenses on it from the full frame, the idea of compactness and low weight is lost, which was one Paul’s priorities when choosing a camera.

      Paul has bought his Fuji recently, the weather in St. Petersburg is not very clear. Over time, he will publish and other samples of shots. He’s just the prime lens Fujifilm XF 35mm f/1.4 R X-Mount.

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      • Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

        Yes, I have looked now and have surprised: it seems that Sony steps on the same rake as Nikon – indeed, there are not enough fast zoom for APS-C. And in fact, at f/2.8 – none, and this – in the presence of very decent bodyes: Sony A77, until recently, and a very serious new Sony A6500. And they are developing their line of full-format mirrorless – with a clear aim at the pros. I’m not against the full frame, I really like the Nikon D750.

        For some reason, Sigma managed to make Sigma AF 18-35mm f/1.8, and the “grandees” do not want. But for today, the truth is, the situation develops when the requirements for the full frame have significantly dropped with the appearance of ISO APS-C sensors (Micro 4/3 is not yet reaching, and it’s a pity, very interesting form factor), there is a tendency to miniaturization, especially in plan to reduce the weight of bodies and lenses), and with miniature and, accordingly, light lenses – tension.

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          I do not know why this happens. I will assume that very serious marketing research and mathematical calculation are involved here. Focus on the full frame Sony does, because, apparently, the profit from one sold full frame body and lens is higher than with APS-C ones.

          Lenses f/2.8 are not produced because, say, for the development and advertising of one lens for APS-C Sony 16-55mm f/2.8 will take 1 million dollars, and they will be bought by 10 thousand people, the company will profit from one lens $300. Total: profit of 2 million dollars (10’000 * 300-1’000’000 = 2’000’000 USD).

          And on the Sony 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS lens, they earn $100, but this lens will be bought by 100,000 amateur photographers – the profit will be $9 million. Well, while Apis Krasnoyarsky and Paul Chertalev and with them 10 thousand other buyers will refuse to buy a mirrorless Sony, the company remains in profit.

          I emphasize, these are my reflections, not supported by anything.

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          • Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

            Not a very good example: I doubt that this “semi-KIT lens” someone will buy separately, and in the KIT it is given approximately at cost price. According to the optical properties, according to reviews, the KIT-lens from Sony is worse than Nikon 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6, and the cost price of the metal case is, of course, higher. Rather, some inexpensive prime like 50mm.

            In general, for Sony, the photo business is not the core (as, indeed, for Nikon, which produces a lot of expensive equipment used in many areas of the “national economy”, and for Panasonic with Samsung), so they just have fun… for the image, so to speak. But not at a loss to yourself, whenever possible.

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    • Paul Chertalev says:

      Apis, where did you get the information that Sony quality “surpasses” Fuji? It is not true. I photographed on the Sony A6500 in the store, and I did not like ergonomics. I normally could not appreciate the photos – it was a bit dark in the store, but I prefer Fuji X-T2’s default color, and the Fuji X20 was my first camera.

      Well, the most important said Sergey: optics. And, judging by the comparison on Youtube, the autofocus of the Fujifilm X-T2 is better. Yes, there is no VR, but I shot 3 years on the Nikon D800, and it did not stop me. The stabilizer is useful for static shooting, and I mostly shoot people.

      In occasion of “foggy – do not impress” – apparently, we have different tastes: I consider these photos as one of my best, showing the best possible Fujifilm X-T2. Yes, “the light is our everything”, and on street photos it is more than enough. And the light, combined with the fog, gives a very atmospheric picture.

      If you do not have enough, here are more photos taken on the Fujifilm X-T2 in more ordinary lighting:

      https://fotki.yandex.ru/users/pchertalev/album/1468413/

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      • Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

        When comparing the technique, I completely trust a very authoritative site, probably unparalleled on the Internet: DPReview.com. In addition, there you can compare the test results of the shooting almost in online. As far as I know, no one has ever caught it in engaging or juggling the results. About the “like” – the concept of subjective, including color. On the objectives – I agree completely, although Fuji with the prices do not hesitate at all.

        From the additional photos like the light in the frames with pigeons and the face of the daughter close-up, sorry to spread in a small resolution, I already moved all the same to 1920-2000 pixels on the larger side, on Full HD monitors look better. Waiting for more pictures “on plein air” – spring comes, colors start to please, and the light normal appears.

        And our tastes are really different, but the light is one for all photographers, and he either is, or he is not. I wish you new masterpieces with a new camera, the main thing is that you like it. I somehow got on LiveJurnal to Liseykina, why she shoots on Fuji, and not on FX (in my opinion, she had something like the Canon EOS 5D Mark3 then). She agreed that FX is, of course, cool, but Fujifilm LIKES! Well, even for her female handles Fuji easier to shoot. And it is right!

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        • Paul Chertalev says:

          But, judging by DPRivew, Fuji is better: the Fujifilm X-T2 received a Gold Award with 86%, and the Sony A6500 received Silver Award with 85% (dpreview.com/search /? query = sony% 206500 & product = sony_a6500).

          If you could show me 2 pairs of pictures in which the Sony A6500 produced the best result, I probably would have understood what the basis is for the belief that Sony is surpasses. As for more resolution – I do not see the point in a large resolution on the Internet.

          1. The main thing in photography is not the technical quality, but its plot.
          2. Photos in high resolution are stole and are sold.

          3. Google has already told me the disk space is almost consumed. 🙂

          If it’s really necessary, I can give RAF, but most people have enough and such small cards to appreciate the picture.

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  13. Sergey PAT says:

    Comparison of the Sony A6500 and the Fujifilm X-T2 in terms of professional use

    Last week, I published a review about the use of the Fuji X-T10 in a weekend trip. I want to extrapolate my observations by comparing the Sony A6500 vs the Fujifilm X-T2 for professional use. Here we have in view of the word “professional” getting paid orders, and not shooting masterpieces (since high-quality photos are experienced and talented photographer can shoot on the Fujifilm X-M1 and the Sony A3500).

    So, suppose the photographer every day takes pictures of weddings, Love Story, christenings and weddings, birthdays and matinees in kindergarten. I think that in comparing the X-T2 and the A6500, Fuji will be preferable.

    Firstly, the presence of fast zooms for APS-C in FujiFilm X model range – the system turns out to be more light and compact than Sony with full-frame lenses.

    Secondly, larger sizes – it’s more convenient to hold the camera. In the Fujifilm X-T10 test, I noted that with the Fujifilm XF 16-55mm f/2.8 R LM WR X, it started to “twist” my palm after a while. On both mirrorless, you can put a battery grip that will improve ergonomics in practice, but outwardly, the shape of the larger X-T2, in my opinion, is more convenient if you need to carry a camera for days.

    Third, slow memory cards for Sony A6500: the slot only for Memory Stick Duo/SD-cards. Unlike it, the Fujifilm X-T2 can use incomparably faster UHS-II, i.e. continuous shooting will be faster, recording video in 4K format is also easier.

    Fourthly, the death defect of the Sony A6500 is only one slot for memory cards. Imagine, you received an order to shoot a wedding in the Seychelles, the customer paid for the flight, hotel accommodation… You shot the Love Story, the wedding party… and the card faded and the photos disappeared. Oh, you will be drown in the sea right there! I think that having a 2-card slot is a huge, vital advantage of the Fujifilm X-T2, if you compare these two mirrorless cameras for professional use.

    Fifth, the ISO setting in the X-T2 is made by the disk on the case, in the A6500 – through the menu. Hence, the photographer who shoots at Fuji will miss out on interesting frames, since the setting of shooting parameters is faster.

    Sixthly, the control of the choice of points of autofocus on the Fuji X-T2 is performed by a special joystick. Simply more convenient.

    Seventh, Sony’s screen is only folding, in Fuji case – it turns in another plane. If you use the camera to shoot video reviews and you self are in the frame (self-video), then on the X-T2 you can see if you got into focus, the A6500 will not have such an opportunity.

    In general, if for a travel-photo, for personal use the Sony A6500 can be considered as a competitor to the Fujifilm X-T2, then for the sake of money, it seems to me that it has much fewer strengths…

    P.S. Please see the video with another arguments why the X-T2 surpasses A6500.

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  14. Alessandro says:

    Separate control disks for all parameters are very clearly. It also bribed me in due time in the Fujifilm X-T1, but it is extremely non-operative. One hand does not change the parameters. And sometimes it is necessary.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      I did not understand your comment. Do you think that you go to the menu of the Sony A6500 and choose the required ISO value there (even if you assign a function button for quick access) is more convenient than just to rotate the sensitivity adjustment disk on the Fujifilm X-T1 camera?

      Well, I imagine: you came to the meeting of the opposition rally, hold the Sony A6500 with your right hand, thumb pressed the “Fn” key, then you chose the desired ISO value by the joystick… Maybe, if at this time in your left hand you have a stick that you from the raging provocateurs fend off, it will be more convenient to configure the camera settings in this way, but in other cases, the Fuji X-T2 setting option will be more comfortable. 🙂

      Could you please give examples of cameras where the ergonomics of the choice of parameters is realized much better? In my opinion, the same professional Nikon D5 or Canon EOS-1D X Mark II are also approximately set up…

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      • Oleg says:

        Sergey, I did not get to know how it is done on Fuji X, but on the Sony Alpha 6000 it’s setup with the same hand that you hold the camera with, and there’s no talking about LONG picking in the menu. In general, it’s unclear why you’ve stuck to this ISO.

        This is done like this: rolling the multifunction wheel with your thumb to the right and you change ISO by the WHEEL. What decides is a fraction of a second, when you make a move to the side with the same hand that you hold the camera, is generally unclear.

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          I was sure that you need to press the key and enter the menu, as in the Nikon D5100. If this is done, as you, Oleg, described, then I apologize for having misled you.

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          • Oleg says:

            Sergey, I sent you a short video on Facebook, how it works. At the same time, without waking up the holy wars, I just want to ask if I need to change the RANGE of automation (lower and upper ISO), on the Sony A6000 it is the same multifunction wheel movement to the right, just once more. And on the Fujifilm X-T2, how the ISO wheel will help in the ability to specify the RANGE. Is there a special position?

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          • Alessandro says:

            On Fuji, starting with the Fujifilm X-T10, there are three Auto ISO presets. This parameter can be hung on a quick key and quickly selected. However, to change the settings, you need to immerse into the menu.

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      • Alessandro says:

        It is not necessary to fight with a stick from someone. You can shoot from any point where you need to hold the other hand. This is not necessarily a rally. The same shooting of weddings, for example. On the Fuji X-T and the X-T2 can’t change any parameter with one hand. Only with shutter speed you can solve this issue and the aperture. But then all sense of such “analog” settin g up vanishes. In the Canon 5D Mark III I can calmly change these parameters, holding the camera with one hand.

        Yes, this is not always necessary, but it should not be concealed. And it turns out, as with the blue glare and the Petrov’s ambassador from Fujifilm.

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  15. Max says:

    For a long time, I have read this blog, a lot of interesting information and beautiful photos! Thank you!

    For this article. The pictures I’ve given myself have not convinced me that it’s worth changing the full frame Nikon to APS-C Fuji. I really like photographs of the author, made by Nikon, they seem more voluminous and pleasant in color.

    Although, after watching this video comparing the full frame of Canon EOS 6D and Fujifilm X-T10, I started to think about it.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Max, thanks for the kind words! 🙂 If Fujifilm could create a camera that would please absolutely all photographers, it would definitely occupy a dominant position in the market. But the theory of marketing says that it is impossible to implement, because each consumer shares on the social, demographic and cultural level, with respect to novelties, and on dozens of other indicators.

      I can sometimes troll the Canon brand for the fact that the sensor parameters are far behind Nikon, but at the same time, I am happy to follow the work of a large number of admirers of this brand, shooting stunning pictures of their “lame” Canon. 🙂

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    • Paul Chertalev says:

      Thanks for the feedback. Criticism about color and volume is taken purely to my own account, since this has nothing to do with the camera. After all, as I said, in blind testing it is impossible to distinguish pictures made by Fujifilm X or Nikon.

      I assure you that the volume in the photo is created by special techniques that can be used with any camera. Maybe the feeling that the volume in the image was less developed because my photos have fewer pictures with a blurry background, but this trend has been traced in my pictures for quite some time. Sergey just did not publish my photos for a long time. 🙂
      I began to appreciate the story more in the picture than the cool voluminous but plotless portraits (as Ilya Rashap says – the statement of the “woman”), and the empty temples in the frame do not attract me anymore. By color – most likely, I got carried away with Fujifilm profiles, and color, as we know, is a purely subjective thing. I like the cool color of Fuji better, you – apparently, less.

      I emphasize once again: the Fujifilm X-T2 shoots no worse than Nikon or Canon, as well as Sony or Olympus. All cameras are just a padding between the person and the subject. The person shoots. And if the shots became worse, then this photographer became worse off, and not the camera. And I have enough good fast optics from Fuji to absolutely reproduce exactly all of my old frames shot on Nikon – the only problem is that now, most of them I do not really like.

      I, by the way, have already received quite a lot of criticism concerning color. But, guys, I have a camera for a month – I think I have not yet found my recipe for the perfect color in RAF from the Fuji T-X2. And I think that I will look for it for a rather long time. In the end, I was looking for my color in Nikon for 3 years. And, when I already found it, I switched to Fuji, as the weight of the photo bag began to exceed my physical ability to carry it all day.

      By the way, it seems to me, Sergey did not set the task to convince everyone to move from a full frame to APS-C camera. He just wanted to show what came out of this specifically from me. So far I am pleased with the result, and Sergey also liked my pictures, and to Misha Shmakov. This, at least, convinces me that at least I have not lost anything at the transition to the mirrorless, but I have become compact and light, which, in turn, will help me make more good pictures. I can now carry the Fujifilm X-T2 + Fujinon 35mm 1.4 kit every day, which I do. With the Nikon D800 I could not afford such a luxury.

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    • Sergey PAT says:

      Max, with Paul’s permission, I spread our dialogue in personal correspondence. I also have questions, mainly concerning the lack of “full frame magic” on the Fujifilm X-T2. But, to be completely confident, I need to conduct experiments …

      P. – Tell me honestly, having looked at such pictures, did not you want to jump to the Fuji X-T2? 🙂

      S. – I’ll be honest: when I first saw your pictures – I liked them, the second one – something’s not right. I showed them to the friend of mine, he said the following: “They look like they were taken off by a very high-quality poin-and-shoot camera. Sharpness and clarity is, but “there is no magic”… And I was with him that day agreed. But!!! Now I need to do some experience, after which I will definitively be defined… In general, my heart trembled… ☺

      I admit honestly… But I still did not want to change my system of Nikon D610. And by the way, I like the color that your photos (and Liseikina’s) look like… but, you know, it is as a preset in the Lightroom – we all were addicted to it, and then began to process without color correction… That’s while this article was preparing, I reviewed thousands pictures, and already it starts to feel me sick… I want an ordinary, uncorrected color …

      P. – I wish Misha told what is magic… ☺ Maybe I over sharped the photo while decreasing it, but I like it.

      S. – I, as received your pictures, I put the experience: shot from a tripod by 70 mm in FF and DX mode. The difference is scanty… But now I think that at a wide angle lens there will be a very strong difference, because on FF I come much closer and strongly change the perspective. That’s what I want to check… The same thing – at 300-450 mm focal length check. Here, it seems to me, the perspective for FF will be very compressed too.

      I liked your photos very much. Yes, and I say – my heart trembled. ☺

      P. – An interesting characteristic: “It’s as if a quality point-and-shoot camera was shot…” 🙂 After all, I did not just transferred to the X-T2, I did a couple of snapshots. So, in the Nikon D800 is also a quality point-and-shoot camera! ☺ Since the pictures did not differ in practice: perhaps, with color.

      S. – Yes, we watched pictures of the Japanese in the medium format Hasselblad, then Nikon D3100 and Nikon 50mm f/1.8… there is no difference, but I want to believe… ☺ Hard to believe. ☺

      P. – I think fabulous photographers make all the magic with processing, and a snapshot from any camera is a reflection of reality. I can only agree that there is beauty in the various blurring of the background, the character of the bokeh is an artistic concept, but it is like homeopathy or osteopathy: someone believes, someone does not, and no one can prove anything to anyone.

      A characteristic of “sharpness” is, “magic” – no, this I accept only at my own expense, and the camera is not to do with it. If Misha could explain what kind of magic is not enough, I would add it to my droplet.

      ***
      P. – Listen, do you really think that I touched with the color? Too bright? Or colorful? To me, my colors seemed close to reality, but if you say that it cuts your eyes, you need to do something about it.

      S. – No, you do not understand… Everything is OK with the color. No claims. I just see that the preset is used. And I said that I previously used presets in Lightroom, now I do not like it. I move the saturation slider, brightness, but I rarely apply tone. And then there is noticeable tone. I like it… But I looked at your pictures, Liseikina’s, Dmitry Kochergin’s with the Fuji X-T10 – I’m beginning to get tired of Fuji’s “corporate color”… Well, it cuts the eye…

      P. – I did not use presets.

      S. – Simply, a feature of Fuji’s color, more precisely – a film profile, as I understand it. Chromium?
      P. – In some places there is chrome, but most are processed in a Fuji standard profile… I forgot what it’s called.

      S. – Well, then I see it… ☺ like the magic of a full frame. ☺ Do not pay attention then. The color settings themselves are excellent, there is no busting or shortage.

      P. – Hold on! Frames with the Nikon D800 do not differ from Fuji in the standard profile. More precisely, they differ, but insignificantly: skin color… green, white is cleaner in Fuji X-T2.

      S. – Look at Elena Liseykina’s blog. Do not you see the difference in colors?

      P. – Fuji, of course, has his own color… Only in WB differences. At Nikon, it is warmer, the Fuji is colder. Fujifilm is more contrast, but I think it’s post-processing.

      S. – So, it’s my habit… In general, I like Canon most of all. 🙂 Then, what does everyone say about the “beautiful JPEG from Fuji”? I see differences in Jpeg… and personally I’m starting to get bored. ☺ Why did you stick to me? I like girls with big tushies… And you darn me why I do not like flat ones… Well, I like …

      P. – I have not bothered – it’s me who criticize Liseikina… 🙂

      Another example of a day’s snapshot is that there are differences only in the white balance, which, as is known, is subjective and amenable to correction to taste.

      S. – I say: at first glance, Fuji colors like. As I start to look much, I get bored.

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      • Max says:

        Very interesting dialogue! Thank you! I liked the phrase: “I think professional photographers make all the magic with processing, and a snapshot from any camera is a reflection of reality.”

        So, I also think that in essence the digital photo should be everywhere the same, the rest is internal firm processing (warmer, colder, more contrasting, grainy, etc.). Now you can choose a camera in appearance.

        And this phrase is good: “They look like they were taken off by a very high-quality point-and-shoot camera. Sharpness and clarity is, but “there is no magic.”

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        • Sergey PAT says:

          About the advantage of film photography is better than Sergey Maximishin, probably no one will say. Here published him in the discussion of Nikon D750.

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          • Max says:

            Yes, this is true, a universal phrase that will suit many creative directions! 🙂 Simply, technically, the film transmits an “infinite” amount of “bit”, and for this reason both the “air” in the film is different, and the space is deeper, and the shades are more natural. It is a pity that the film has its limitations (grain, terms and conditions of storage), but it seems to me that the film could be developed with the help of nanotechnology no worse than the digital. Simply, the digital technology is cheaper.

            I think the sensor should be pulled to the possibilities of the film. Is it possible, I do not know, probably it will be, but not soon. In the meantime, a digital photo (even the coolest one) reminds me of an MP3 format, and a film is an original multi-layer full-size track.

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            As I said above, I also plan to conduct experiments with the proof of the existence of “full frame magic”. I believe that it manifests itself when shooting at extreme values of focal lengths, but at average values it is lost.

            For example, if Paul sets a focal length of 50 mm on the cropped Fujifilm X-T2, I set 75 mm on the full frame of Nikon D610, then the practice showed that the pictures will be identical if you shoot from the same distance for the subject. But, most likely, in the same conditions, I will leave 50 mm, but I will approach 30% closer to the object of shooting, thereby changing the perspective of the image significantly… Magic will manifest itself. But, I suspect that not much.

            At the same time, when I was writing a lesson about when I was using a telephoto lens, and when the wide angle lens, I noticed that changing the focal length by 20 mm on telephoto is almost not noticeable (for Nikon 70-200 mm f/2.8 it’s just, 10%), but on the wide Samyang 14mm f/2.8 – this is more than 100% change in the focal length). Where Paul put out 14 mm, I, in practice, also put 14 mm, but I’ll come closer by 30%, and, theoretically, in the change of perspective there will be simply a GIANT jump. And this will be the cause of the manifestation of “full frame magic”. I plan to test this fact in practice.

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          • Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

            And if I use 10 mm on wide angle lens for my Nikon D5200? In fact it will be practically equivalent to yours 14mm on a full frame?

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            In general, I was experimenting all morning – not to argue with Paul: if APS-C will have equivalent focal length comparable lens, the difference in the image is scanty, and “full frame magic” can’t be said. It is difficult to admit defeat in a dispute, but Paul is right. 🙁

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          • Paul Chertalev says:

            Sergey, about shooting on ultra-wide angle lens: I saw this video, in which there is a comparison of frames shot on wide angle of ultra-wide lenses. Comparison Fujifilm X-T2 vs. Nikon D750.

            I thought – it seems that there should be a difference in the distortions introduced by the deviation of the camera axis from the horizontal or vertical. I think they will be more noticeably falling 10 mm than 14 mm. What do you think?

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Paul, probably, we still need to take into account the distortions introduced by a specific type of lens. I conducted the following experiment: put the camera on a tripod, shot 2 frames by 70 mm and 24 mm with a Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G lens. Then I applied them in Photoshop with a translucent top layer, and cut off the wide angle so that it coincided with the long focal length in the borders – the match is virtually complete.

            If you shoot one frame on Sigma AF 10-20mm f/4-5.6 lens, and the other on Tamron SP AF 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 with 10 mm and with 20 mm, there may not be a matching border due to the fact that the shape of the lens inside is different.

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        • Paul Chertalev says:

          Max, if you like a fuzzy background, Fuji has excellent Fujifilm 56mm f/1.2 and Fuji 90mm f2 lenses – they will make the bokeh no worse. Do you really think that with the help of APS-C camera you can’t get such pictures? Maybe all these pictures are shot on Fuji? Once again: if the picture is like – it is by no means the merit of the camera, it is entirely the merit of the photographer. Having eaten a delicious borsch, you do not begin to praise the smart pot of the cook and tell her about the magic that appears in the taste of borscht if you use Zepter utensils.

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          • Max says:

            No, I do not scold Fujifilm, I myself would like such a camera, and bokeh is not the main thing.

            I showed examples of creative approach to photography.

            1) a reference to the work – Sony A6300, Sony A6500, Sony A7rII;
            2) a link to the pictures – Olympus (micro 4/3);
            3) reference to pictures – film, medium format (Pentax 67);

            It is not necessary to achieve “as in life”, the main thing is the plot and the post processing is suitable for it. 🙂

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          • Max says:

            Sergey and Pavel, thank you for the answers! I myself recently purchased Nikon DSLR (for the beginning, D3300). A lot with it tormented after the compact (PowerShot SX50), while accustomed. I like the warm color of Nikon, but I admire the photos taken on the modern compacts of Fuji and Olympus (not to mention Sony and Leica). Even with pleasure I would buy the same Fuji X-T10 (not so expensive).

            There is a dispute what is better, 12 bit or 14 bit? I’ve heard that professionals shoot in Jpeg (8 bit) and are content with this, they are published in magazines, it was said about Fuji or Olympus. Looking at Fujifilm X-T10 test result, can you say that its Jpg is stronger than Nikon or Canon? Or now Lightroom can pull any photo from the mobile phone? I heard that one professional, showing examples to visitors to the forum, processes photos directly uploaded to the forum and works wonders.

            Paul, it will be interesting to watch new photos from your Fujifilm X-T2 in the pages of this wonderful blog. 🙂

            I take pictures on Nikon, Canon and on a smartphone. Just started to master Lightroom.

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Max, Lightroom will process out a photo with RAF, in which, thanks to the dynamic range, more information is stored. The question of the adequacy of 12 or 14 bit during processing is debatable, and familiar to whether it is possible to photograph the Nikon D3300 or better the Nikon D5300: you can shoot masterpieces on your camera, no worse than on the D7200 or the D500, but the pluses of advanced body exist…

            Now I can’t find where I wrote yet, but I’m sure that only a very, very experienced photographer will be able to shoot a more or less high-quality photo in JPEG, since he must set up in advance, before the shutter is released, such settings in the camera, which take into account light differences in shadows and lights, white balance and more… Conventional amateurs can improve their “miscalculations” by correcting them when processing RAW in Lightroom. Plus, during the post-processing in Lightroom, you have the ability to use the Brush and Gradient tools to make local corrections, which cannot be done with the camera JPEG.

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          • Max says:

            Sergey, many of your photos are processed almost perfectly, you can’t tear off your eyes, you just wonder how you can clearly control the colors in the photo. Almost everything for a blog you shoot in RAW? Is this the secret of your fine handling?

            In your photos the magic of the full frame is felt, but here in the given works of Paul this is not yet noticeable. Probably, this is because of the scenes.

            Will you do personally a review on the Fujifilm X-T2? It’s interesting to see your photos in your processing from this camera. Although, no less interesting to see the photos of Paul. Maybe a joint review?

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Thank you, Max! Now I am just preparing to publish an article about how I process my photos. Yes, all the photos in the blog are shot in RAW and processed in Lightroom, plus, in the last year, I do not hold back and almost everywhere I add polishing in Photoshop using Google Nik Collection plug-ins.

            The workflow of Fujiflm X-T2 has not yet planned to be reviewed. Perhaps, in time, when Paul will develop a portfolio with pictures taken in different light conditions, let us return to this question.

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          • Max says:

            Oh, it will be interesting to read and see! It would still be informative to know how you set up the settings (shooting modes) under different conditions. In one of your reviews (Nikon D5200 with Fuji X30, it seems) you exhibited a photo with bicyclists, in blue tones, here it seemed to me in a color similar to the pictures from Fujifilm X.

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            It is described in the main lesson about ISO, shutter speed and aperture how I put the settings. Also, in the second part of the review Fujifilm X30 provides links to all the other important lessons for the technical quality of photography lessons: histogram and ETTR (exposure to the right), exposure correction, and the operation of DOF (depth of field), modes of autofocus, training the vision of the frame.

            References: Lydia Dyko “Conversations about Photo Mastery” in the lesson about settings, plus super quality textbooks on the development of the vision of the frame in English, the description of which is given at the end of the lesson about the vision of the frame. More than anything, I think, you do not need to know.

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          • Apis Krasnoyarskiy says:

            Why you did not please direct use Nik Collection in Lightroom? I personally also put Portraiture in there…

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            When installing, apparently, the checkmark “Store Presets with Catalog” I did not remove, so the Nik Collection did not work. And I used to finish in Photoshop. In addition, recently, the sharpness I’m using with “C3C Image Size” plugin, so Photoshop – the necessary stage, there and “Nick”, if necessary, I use.

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          • Alex says:

            Sergey, tell me, why do not you immediately let Lightroom handle Nik Collection? In fact, processing in Photoshop is required only for some photos such as face portraits, HDR, especially important images. Again, many photographers, when processing, make the color range of the photo not very real, especially as regards the color of the sky. My wife (not a photographer) often criticizes that the picture should be closer to reality, and even the most ardent artists, landscape painters and seascapes (like Shishkin and Aivazovsky) were not afraid to show the “overexposure” of the sky.

            If, for example, immediately after the primary processing of a photo of a stormy sky in Lightroom, in the “landscapes” section of Nik Collection to do “color extraction”, then the photo acquires a complete look, in the shadows when printing on A4 or on a computer screen, details that a person with an excellent vision can be considered only by looking closely or using optics. And with the processing of portraits “Nik Collection + move sliders small, medium, large parts” is coping better than “newbie + Photoshop”. Saving time again, if you do not print posters of A2 or A1 format.

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Alex, I explained above to Apis: Nik Collection in Photoshop is just a habit caused by the incorrect installation of the plug-in. In general, everything is not straightforward in processing: you can achieve the same result in different ways.

            I see from your explanations that in Lightroom it will be more convenient. I’ll try to re-arrange it on occasion. Although, still have to end sharpness in “C3C Image Size” plug-in, because I was never able to achieve it in a different way.

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          • Max says:

            And, here, I found that frame shot on the Nikon D5100, which seemed to me similar in color to the photo of Fuji X: photo# 16 in the comparative review the Fujifilm X-M1 and the D5100.

            It seems to me, the unique transmission of blue shades in Fujifilm X cameras, and this does not interfere with warm colors. How can I explain this? Technological features of the sensor or internal software processing for shooting?

            Thanks for the links!

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Maxim, you have me confused. Assuming the wrath of Paul, I will immediately say that experiments have already shown that in conditions of shooting a concert, when there is no possibility to move further away, by transferring the perspective of the photo No.33-39, you do not distinguish which will be shot on the Nikon D800, which the Fuji X-T2 . Verified!

            About the transfer of blue shades, I’m not such an expert. You need to look at the original RAF from Paul’s Fuji X-T2 and other Fujifilm X camera owners. Much depends on the processing by a particular author, from the atmospheric conditions at the time of shooting.

            But such a notion as Fuji’s “corporate color”, I believe that exists.

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          • Max says:

            About the shades of blue – this is an observation. Well, probably, I’m not in the subject and I cannot explain this more clearly. The main thing is that there is Fuji’s “corporate color”, maybe I mean it. It is interesting to understand what creates this “Fuji’s corporate color”.

            I will not confuse you any more, I will just read your excellent reviews. Thanks for the answers and success!

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          • Paul Chertalev says:

            Max, I do not want to prove anything to you with Sergey or without him. I think you do not hear me. I firmly believe that if Sergey stood next to me with his full-frame Nikon D610, and shot just like me, then the footage would have turned out to be absolutely the same. It seems to me that your photo-magic meter is extremely simple: if you like the picture – the magic is there, do not like it – then no. I draw such a conclusion, based on the fact that you pointed to the “magic” in the photographs taken by APS-C cameras, and the magic of the full frame is nothing to do with.

            I think you just do not like my shots. I’m sorry, but there’s nothing I can do. I put all that I could into these pictures – and no other camera would allow me to do them better. In the end, everyone does not please. But I personally like my shots and, in my opinion, I never took better pictures than these. Try to see the whole set – maybe all the same, something will attract. In the end, Sergey chose only a few pieces from the entire set.

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          • Max says:

            Paul, I did not say that I do not like. Lovely photos, but from Fujifilm I was waiting for something more spectacular. Now I’m waiting for you from something spectacular with this wonderful camera. And in the concept of “magic” we are putting different meanings, that’s all. Good luck!

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          • Sergey PAT says:

            Paul, I would like you to understand that I separate “magic” and “a good shot.” And first of all I will note that I really like your photos, just how you built them: composition, caught moment, context in pictures. And I agree that the pictures in this review are some of the best in your career. At least, if you compare with the works that you submitted to the photo competition, then the quality growth is just on the face!

            At the same time, I think that the “magic of the full frame” should not be confused in the discussion. You yourself said that one of the reasons why I like my current pictures more than with Nikon D5100 – I began to shoot better and better to process. And you are all the same subjects that presented in the review, would have shot well even on the point-and-shoot camera (taking into account the restrictions imposed by the noisy sensor).

            And thanks again for examples of work with the Fujifilm X-T2! I do not have any doubts that among APS-C DSLRs and mirrorless models, this model, by today’s technical characteristics, stands in the first place! And all the reasoning, what I’m saying about the “magic of the full frame” – only my conjectures. And, when I say that “my heart has trembled, but I do not plan to buy,” we are talking about the fact that there was no desire to sell Nikon D610, but I really wanted to receive the X-T2 as a second camera, for travel and business trips. I do not know how the X-T2, but if it comes out with the same Fujifilm X-E3 sensor, I probably buy it…

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          • Paul Chertalev says:

            Max, I think your expectations of spectacular shots from this wonderful Fujifilm X-T2 are never justified: the camera can’t shoot! 🙂

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